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How do we reach our potential in work and life? The Inside Learning podcast explores the science of learning and the future of work with expert guest speakers and research-based insights from The Learnovate Centre in Trinity College Dublin, a global research centre focused on learning technology. Hosted by author, consultant and coach Aidan McCullen. Get in touch: info@learnovatecentre.org / https://www.learnovatecentre.org
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Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Design for How People Learn with Julie Dirksen
Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
In this episode of the Inside Learning Podcast, brought to you by the Learnovate Centre, we dive deep into the principles of effective learning with special guest Julie Dirksen, author of 'Design for How People Learn' and 'Talk to the Elephant.' Julie and host explore topics such as designing impactful learning experiences, the role of habit formation, and the importance of understanding learner objectives. Julie shares insights on overcoming resistance to change, leveraging AI in learning, and the importance of bridging knowledge gaps. This engaging conversation is a must-watch for educators, instructional designers, and leaders aiming to create meaningful and sustainable learning environments. Learn more about the science of learning and the future of work at Learnovatecentre.org.
00:00 Introduction to the Inside Learning Podcast
00:15 The Importance of Effective Learning Experiences
01:02 Welcome Julie Dirksen: Author and Learning Expert
02:27 Communicating Learning Objectives
08:15 Challenges of Unlearning and Adapting to Change
20:13 Bridging Learning Gaps and Behavioral Science
26:39 The Expert's Perspective and Effective Learning Design
29:14 The Closet Analogy: Organizing Knowledge
32:10 Conclusion and Where to Find More
Find Julie: https://usablelearning.com/the-books/
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